Terry and Philip are back, and after nearly five years (ignore the estimates in the show), and talking about what’s changed for them personally, and what changes they’ve seen in the industry.

We hint at an Artificial Intelligence show to come, and discuss whether “the industry” is better off now than five years ago – who has suffered a downturn and who is doing well.

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