Episode 30: Final Cut Pro X

Maybe this should be Episode 3X!

Philip had one week’s early access to Final Cut Pro X and answers Terry’s questions in this 30th episode of The Terence and Philip Show.

Philip’s book, Conquering the metadata foundations of Final Cut Pro X is now available.

Many, many thanks to Isai Espinoza for editing the show again and making us sound smart, particularly on this show!! Thanks Isai, awesome job.

15 thoughts on “Episode 30: Final Cut Pro X

  1. Great podcast. I’ve been a listener from episode 1.

    I think the folks that edit television and movies (myself included) will likely take a wait and see approach to FCP X. If Apple adds in the features that we need quickly, then they’ll likely retain their share of that small market.

    I’m currently demoing Media Composer and Premiere while I finish current shows and projects in FCP7. So far, there are features I like about both. MC’s tracking of film metadata is far beyond Premiere it would seem. But Premiere handles the new digital formats so impressively. Their handling of material shot on the new RED Epic makes a lot of sense.

    I’m really curious how well Premiere and Media Composer will work with the new version of Davinci Resolve 8 since I will likely switch to Resolve from my beloved Apple Color (I will miss that program).

  2. Why does Apple continually buy companies only to OEL their products? DVD Studio Pro, Color, Shake, and probably soon Logic. How much tech from those products actually got incorporated in FCPX? Even FCP classic was acquired IP from Macromedia.

    1. Product get to end of life. The technologies live on and appear elsewhere. And for history’s sake I wore my Macromedia Final Cut T shirt to Editor’s Lounge last night to show FCP X. I liked the irony.

    1. Dave, it’s been in the iTunes podcast directory from Episode 1 and many people get it that way.

  3. Hi Guys,
    Great show. Phillip to seemed to tire and get a little dismissive “..next question!” when Terry was making key points about missing features… I realise that this is a version 1 product – but surely there are certain key features that have to be there – another six months wait for a more inclusive product wouldn’t have been the end of the world.

    I also notice that even Larry Jordan is calling for Final Cut Studio (3) to be put back on the shelves.


    1. It was more that I had had 8 hours sleep in 3 days when we recorded the show. I was most definitely not at my peak. It wasn’t my intention to cut Terry off. I think it’s pretty clear that the professional editor Apple have in mind is not the “high end” that Terry would normally work with. More like the broader New Video Professional. (I’ve got a blog post coming on that, maybe tonight, at philiphodgetts.com)

      I agree with Larry that Final Cut Studio 3 should be available – at least through Value Added Resellers like Keycode, Silverado systems etc. There are people who are genuinely hurting and it appears to serve no real benefit to Apple. VARs only would not confuse the marketing for FCP X, at least not in my opinion.

      1. Good points Phillip.

        Sorry – I didn’t mean to offend. You did mention in the Podcast that you had been working pretty hard!!!

  4. Hey, guys, informative show (as usual).

    The thing that I became curious about was this:
    Philip said (repeatedly? I may be in my mind mixing the podcast with having read his blog posts) that Final Cut Pro X is not, in it’s current incarnation, for the (self-proclaimed) “professional” editors – that is, the ones in high-end post-production, the ones working in Hollywood and New York, with particular needs, established workflows, legacy projects, etc….

    I was wondering what his opinion was in regards to those trying to break in to the industry, and perhaps more particularly, those who are going to be in the near future producing/editing short movies, web series, etc. This is still scripted content, but not (typically?) from those entrenched in the existing workflows, or perhaps the same post needs as the “high end” projects.

    In the case of these newcomers and non-‘broadcast’ productions, do you think FCP X is closer to being a useful product than for those “high end” editors?

    (Damn. That post was longer than I intended.)

  5. There are still some limitations that make that advanced workflows difficult. Multicam, which is allegedly coming is an example. But a better example which Apple hasn’t said will be improved is the way audio is handled is not conducive to a full bodied audio mix. If you are just making a stereo mix for the internet, and you don’t have complex sources, then it will probably be fine.

    At this point it is difficult to say as there are a lot of features missing that it has been implied will show up soon at that could make a big difference for the non-broadcast clients you are talking about.

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